Where was god on 9/11? – Ten years later

We can't go back in time, but we can educate the world and strive for a better future in a world without religion.

We can't go back in time, but we can educate the world and strive for a better future in a world without religion.

You must have heard that line hundreds of times; especially from atheists and skeptics; but when was the last time you heard a believer ask this question to an atheist, and expect an honest answer?

Today I was addressed by a sweet catholic lady, an elder woman, she had one question for me: “Where was god on 9/11?” Continue reading

Die, atheist, die!

Unless you live under a rock, you have probably read about the lawsuit filed by the organization American Atheists against enshrining a cross at the 9/11 memorial and museum in New York City, the news are all over the blogosphere.

Regardless of your religious affiliation, or the lack thereof, there are only so many stances you can take about this issue: either you agree with the lawsuit filed by American Atheists, or not; or you may also be torn. Your reaction, however, might fit in a quite wide range of adjectives.

I know what you’re thinking: yet another atheist crying faul over a few unkind words from some upset Christians… you know, we are overreacting, we’re a bunch of drama queens, right?

Whatever.

To me it is just another cross as there are so many other crosses in almost every village, and every city in nearly every country all over the world. After all it’s just a cross, two beams crossed, an ugly “T”, a “Plus” sign, a cross… doesn’t mean anything to me — except, maybe, that it is a reminder of the fact that there are still people willing to believe in fairytales, and more importantly, the mental note that some of these people have proven to be capable of, and willing to do pretty much anything, including terrible deeds against other human beings, in order to defend their sacred fairytales beliefs. Repeatedly. Wait, why is that we’re talking about not enshrining a cross at the very same place where before there was a building? Oh!

I know, right? The irony!

If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.

— Lenny Bruce

The thing is you are not supposed to be hated and wanted dead for having the guts to stand for what you think is right, and especially, you are not supposed to be wanted dead by the people who, allegedly, have the highest ground on morality, love, mercy, compassion and such. Allegedly. They are so NOT Jesus-like.

I don’t remember having seen anything like this coming from atheists/agnostics/skeptics or even anti-religion folks.

Okay, if you haven’t seen the infamous famous comments, feast on the sad display. These little snippets of Christian hatred love deserve to be preserved per omnia saecula saeculorum.

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I found these at the American Atheists website, and the ones with the blacked out names at Practical Doubt.

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“Few groups are filled with more hate than atheists,” commented Michael Perri.

See, this is not news, not to me and most likely not to you.

Mr. Anders Behring Breivik, the far-right fanatic who murdered in cold blood 89 people in Norway, did not threaten anyone, (unless you consider his manifesto as an open threat), he was just another fundamentalist Christian… who hates Muslims… until he went on a killing spree. Now he’s just a madman.

Have you not received any death threats for being a filthy infidel? I get them on a regular basis, I get emails telling me that I am going to hell, from many different people. Pretty much daily. One of the most upsetting emails I’ve gotten reads “I hope you get skinned and then raped on a pile of salt, if I wasn’t a Christian I would do it myself”. See, they can have quite the imagination to write a whole new series of Saw movies. I cried that day – not because I thought my life could be really in danger, but because my inability to believe in god and my right to be open about it was, to someone, a good enough reason to want me to go through this disturbing, so well described excruciating pain, torture, and death.

Ever heard about Dennis Markuze? He goes by the alias Dave Mabus, and unless you’re a Christian like himself, you must have gotten his hateful tweets at least once… and if you’re lucky, along with his emails,  you might have gotten some personalized tweets.

Doesn’t it make one feel “spishul”?

See, Markuze is quite obsessed with killing atheists, PZ Myers posted his picture back then when they almost met. But who takes Mabus seriously? He’s just a crazy loser, right?  Usually he tosses you a link with his crazy psycho-babble, that’s it… he hasn’t snapped… yet.

Another Markuze’s target is Dr. Michael Shermer. There is a well known statement by Dr. Shermer on this subject. Have you not read it? [expand title=”Read it.” swaptitle=”Collapse”]

January 22, 2011

To: Dennis Markuze, aka Mabus

From: Michael Shermer

I spoke to your father yesterday, after a conversation with your mother the day before. Your father told me that he thought you had stopped doing things like this years ago, but when I read him your latest postings, ramblings, and death threats he was surprised to hear that this technique of drawing attention to yourself by harassment continues. Apparently this is something that you have been doing for many years.

Listen carefully. I have contacted the Montreal police, along with the local police in my city, and alerted them to the danger that you pose as a deranged and possibly mentally ill man. Although your parents indicated that they don’t think that you are mentally ill, they are obviously not privy to the death threats you have been sending all of us. On Monday I am filing a restraining order against you. If you show up anywhere near me I will have you arrested on the spot and put into jail. If you attempt to approach me I will be armed and will not hesitate to use any force necessary to stop you.

In the past 24 hours I have received over 200 tweets and emails from you. This must stop now. I hereby demand an end to all communication from you of any form. If you continue contact with me this will all go on your police record.

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Sound a bit more serious now?

The truth is we can’t know how serious, how real, and how many of them desire this badly enough to carry out their threats.

Here’s the question: How safe do you feel when you say you are an atheist?

The right kind of person.

In case you are wondering what is the right kind of person, I guess it would be the kind of person that won’t ever question these ancient writings, and hearsay stories.

Or maybe the right kind of person is the kind of person that will repent and “accept Jesus as their personal savior”.

Who knows!

Honestly, what did you expect, is anything about these characters not cryptic or magic?

I, most certainly, am not the right kind of person.  Are you?

13-year-old girl beaten to death for not saying prayers

When will these extremist theists realize that they are sacrificing real people over a made up deity. This is so sad.

Nouténé Sidimé, 13, died over the weekend after being allegedly slapped by her father. (Facebook)

Dad in custody after daughter, 13, dies

Girl refused to say prayers with father: neighbours

By QMI Agency

MONTREAL — A 13-year-old girl whose beating death led to the arrest of her 71-year-old father had enraged him by refusing to say her prayers, according to neighbours.

Noutene Sidime died Saturday evening in suburban Longueuil, Que., three days after she was rushed to hospital with breathing difficulties, her face covered in blood.
Her father, Moussa Sidime, had called 911 last Wednesday. Sidime was arrested and charged with aggravated assault, but the charges could be upgraded, police said.
Neighbours said Noutene Sidime was a polite girl who was often unable to please her elderly father.
Others who live in the apartment building south of Montreal said the girl sometimes neglected to say daily prayers, which infuriated her father.
“(He) was mean,” said Karine Girard, who lives on the street. “I’ve seen him grab her by the arm because she wouldn’t go up to say her prayers.”
Relatives told QMI Agency they believe the girl’s death was an accident.

Atheist Sunday School – The Historical Jesus

Today, like many other Sundays, we had Sunday School on Twitter.  Since the topic was a bit long, a few of my friends suggested that I should preserve today’s stream of tweets for further reference. In fact, their suggestion was rather that I wrote these as a blog post, but my laziness knows no boundaries. My apologies.

So, to make it less embarrassing, let’s say that this is a raw draft of a future post; also, please consider that we have yet some facts that we need to review in our next Twitter Atheist Sunday School.

This is a fascinating story, in my opinion, everyone should have access to learn about these facts.

This is how we make atheists. 😉

Oh! For these tweets to make sense you need to read them from bottom to top. Sorry.

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Thank you all for attending and for your smart nice mentions. We will continue with this topic next time. Owe you guys some replies, sorry.
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There’s more, so much more, but that’s gonna have to do for today’s #AtheistSundaySchool. It’s been a long lesson. You liked it? #Atheism
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Finding no references to Jesus in Josephus’ original work, they interpolated a brief but all-embracing reference based purely on Xian belief
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The Christians planted evidence on Josephus, turning the leading Jewish historian of his day into a witness for Jesus Christ! #atheism
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Josephus’ histories survived because the Christian censors had a use for them…. #atheism
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Whole libraries of antiquity were torched by the Xians. Yet unlike the works of his Jewish contemporaries, Josephus’ histories survived.
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This happened about the year 340 AD. This was after the Christians had become the custodians of religious correctness. #atheism
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Bishop Eusebius, Church propagandist & self-confessed liar-for-god, was the first person known to have quoted Josephus’ paragraph. #atheism
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In fact, the Josephus paragraph about Jesus does not appear until the beginning of the fourth century, at the time of Constantine. #atheism
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If Josephus thought Jesus had been ‘the Christ’ he would have added more about him than a casual aside paragraph in Pilate’s story. #atheism
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How could Josephus claim that Jesus had been the answer to his messianic hopes yet remain an orthodox Jew? #atheism
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BUT… not so fast…
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But not a single writer before the 4th century in all their defense against pagan hostility, makes reference to Josephus’ words. #atheism
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In a single paragraph, the so-called Testimonium Flavianum, Josephus confirms every salient aspect of the Christ-myth. #atheism
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At face value, Josephus appears to be the answer to the Christian apologist’s dreams on the account for a historical Jesus. #atheism
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“…For penalties relate not so much to retribution as to their exemplary effect.” – Quintilian (AD 35-95, Decl 274) #atheism
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Crucifixion was chosen precisely to make a public point that the most humiliating punishment awaits those who opposed Rome’s will. #atheism
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And why would the Romans have allowed a convicted felon to be almost immediately removed from his cross and put in a tomb? #atheism
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Philo of Alexandria (On the embassy to Gaius, XXXVIII) speaks of Pilate’s ‘continual murders of people untried and uncondemned.’ #atheism
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A trial for Jesus, when suspected rebels were habitually arrested and executed by the Romans without trial? How so? #atheism
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Gospel writers, in scrambling details, used the Aramaic Barabbas knowing that few Latin or Greek speakers would know its meaning. #atheism
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Perhaps the truth is that a single executed criminal helped flesh out the whole fantastic fable. Maybe? #atheism
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Are we to believe that Pilate had a Jesus, Son of God and a Jesus, Son of the Father in his prison at the same time??!! #atheism
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But in the original text, the chosen criminal was Jesus Barabbas – and Bar Abba in Hebrew means ‘Son of the Father’! Coincidence? #atheism
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By the Bible, Pilate offered the Jews the release of one prisoner & the cursed race chose Barabbas rather than gentle Jesus… #atheism
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Another Jesus during the reign of Artaxerxes I of Persia 465-424 BC. His brother John, the High Priest slain him in the holy temple #atheism
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There’s hardly a word of Jesus that is not to be found in a parallel saying of the rabbis. #atheism
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Practically all the events of Jesus’ supposed life appear in the lives of mythical figures of far more ancient origin. Fishy, huh? #atheism
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… aaand, we now know that Nazareth did not exist before the second century. #atheism
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This ‘universal census’ makes no sense. Roman taxes were based on property ownership not on a head count. #atheism
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…therefore there was no reason for the journey. Even if Galilee had been imperial territory, history knows of no universal census #atheism
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At the time that Joseph & the pregnant Mary allegedly went off to Bethlehem for a Roman census, Galilee was not a Roman province… #atheism
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This ‘greatest story’ is full of numerous anachronisms, contradictions and absurdities. It just doesn’t add up. Let’s see… #atheism
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See, he problem for this notion is that absolutely nothing corroborates the sacred biography, nothing at all. Nada. #atheism
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But… with so many Jesuses could there not have been a ‘Jesus of Nazareth’? You might ask. #atheism
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Jesus ben Stada met his end in the town of Lydda (twenty five miles from Jerusalem) at the hands of a Roman crucifixion crew. #atheism
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Certainly. Jesus ben Stada – was a Judean agitator who gave the Romans a headache in the early years of the second century. #atheism
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But… was there a crucified Jesus? anyone? #atheism
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Jesus ben Thebuth.A priest who in the final capitulation of the city in 69AD, saved his butt by trading the treasures of the Temple #atheism
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When the Idumeans breached the walls of Jerusalem Jesus ben Gamala was put to death & his body thrown to the dogs and carrion birds #atheism
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Jesus ben Gamala. During 68/69 AD this Jesus was a leader of the ‘peace party’ in the civil war wrecking Judaea. #atheism
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When the city was about to fall to Vespasian’s legionaries Jesus ben Saphat fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee. #atheism
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Jesus ben Saphat. In the insurrection of 68AD that wrought havoc in Galilee, this Jesus had led the rebels in Tiberias. #atheism
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Jesus ben Ananias was considered as nothing more dangerous than a mad man. He died from a rock hurled by a Roman catapult. #atheism
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Jesus ben Ananias. Beginning in 62AD, this Jesus caused disquiet in Jerusalem with a non-stop doom-laden mantra of ‘Woe to the city’ #aheism
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This Jesus launched his end-time prophecy which upset the king. He met his own end-time by being hung on a tree – on the eve of a Passover.
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Jesus ben Pandira. A wonder-worker during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus 106-79 BC one of the most ruthless of the Maccabean kings #atheism
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Ecclesiasticus is part of Old Testament Apocrypha. Ben Sirach, writing in Greek about 180 BC, brought together Jewish ‘wisdom’. #atheism
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Jesus ben Sirach. This Jesus was reputedly the author of the Book of Sirach aka Ecclesiasticus or Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach #atheism
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Was there a #Jesus? Of course there was a Jesus! Certainly! The case is, there were many – but no “Jesus of Nazareth.” #atheist #atheism
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Ok, it’s #atheist Sunday School time. Who’s up for an avalanche of Jesuses? I actually love this topic. Ready? #atheism
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This one http://wp.me/pCWma-12J is for you, @bettered. Do some reading and find more answers yourself. #atheism #science
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The problem w/ you trying to prove your faith is that you look like an idiot when someone who knows more about science comes along. #atheism
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http://tl.gd/6aik3o wow! If you haven’t even heard about photosynthesis there’s not much that I can do for you.Seriously? @bettered #atheism
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Starting to think there’s no way to have everything you’ve ever dreamed of; it’s ok, though. In my dreams, I’ve had it all. ♥ Goodnight.
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Criticizing a belief is not persecution. You don’t have a problem when you deny all the gods you don’t believe in, do you. #atheism
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Our morality has evolved in spite of the so morally inadequate god described in the bible, not because of it. #atheism
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You can always close your eyes to the things you don’t want to see, but you can’t close your heart to the things you don’t want to feel. ♥

Why are there still Chimpanzees?

This post  is an attempt to reply to part of this question posted on Twitter by Ed Betterley.

Oh! The process by which new oxygen is produced is called Photosynthesis.

As for your last question, Ed, I have better reasons not to believe in any gods than to believe, but, if there are gods and they are just, they will not care how godly and pious you have been, but will judge you based on the virtues you have lived by.