Atheist Sunday School – The Historical Jesus

Today, like many other Sundays, we had Sunday School on Twitter.  Since the topic was a bit long, a few of my friends suggested that I should preserve today’s stream of tweets for further reference. In fact, their suggestion was rather that I wrote these as a blog post, but my laziness knows no boundaries. My apologies.

So, to make it less embarrassing, let’s say that this is a raw draft of a future post; also, please consider that we have yet some facts that we need to review in our next Twitter Atheist Sunday School.

This is a fascinating story, in my opinion, everyone should have access to learn about these facts.

This is how we make atheists. 😉

Oh! For these tweets to make sense you need to read them from bottom to top. Sorry.

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Thank you all for attending and for your smart nice mentions. We will continue with this topic next time. Owe you guys some replies, sorry.
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There’s more, so much more, but that’s gonna have to do for today’s #AtheistSundaySchool. It’s been a long lesson. You liked it? #Atheism
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Finding no references to Jesus in Josephus’ original work, they interpolated a brief but all-embracing reference based purely on Xian belief
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The Christians planted evidence on Josephus, turning the leading Jewish historian of his day into a witness for Jesus Christ! #atheism
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Josephus’ histories survived because the Christian censors had a use for them…. #atheism
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Whole libraries of antiquity were torched by the Xians. Yet unlike the works of his Jewish contemporaries, Josephus’ histories survived.
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This happened about the year 340 AD. This was after the Christians had become the custodians of religious correctness. #atheism
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Bishop Eusebius, Church propagandist & self-confessed liar-for-god, was the first person known to have quoted Josephus’ paragraph. #atheism
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In fact, the Josephus paragraph about Jesus does not appear until the beginning of the fourth century, at the time of Constantine. #atheism
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If Josephus thought Jesus had been ‘the Christ’ he would have added more about him than a casual aside paragraph in Pilate’s story. #atheism
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How could Josephus claim that Jesus had been the answer to his messianic hopes yet remain an orthodox Jew? #atheism
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BUT… not so fast…
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But not a single writer before the 4th century in all their defense against pagan hostility, makes reference to Josephus’ words. #atheism
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In a single paragraph, the so-called Testimonium Flavianum, Josephus confirms every salient aspect of the Christ-myth. #atheism
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At face value, Josephus appears to be the answer to the Christian apologist’s dreams on the account for a historical Jesus. #atheism
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“…For penalties relate not so much to retribution as to their exemplary effect.” – Quintilian (AD 35-95, Decl 274) #atheism
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Crucifixion was chosen precisely to make a public point that the most humiliating punishment awaits those who opposed Rome’s will. #atheism
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And why would the Romans have allowed a convicted felon to be almost immediately removed from his cross and put in a tomb? #atheism
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Philo of Alexandria (On the embassy to Gaius, XXXVIII) speaks of Pilate’s ‘continual murders of people untried and uncondemned.’ #atheism
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A trial for Jesus, when suspected rebels were habitually arrested and executed by the Romans without trial? How so? #atheism
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Gospel writers, in scrambling details, used the Aramaic Barabbas knowing that few Latin or Greek speakers would know its meaning. #atheism
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Perhaps the truth is that a single executed criminal helped flesh out the whole fantastic fable. Maybe? #atheism
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Are we to believe that Pilate had a Jesus, Son of God and a Jesus, Son of the Father in his prison at the same time??!! #atheism
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But in the original text, the chosen criminal was Jesus Barabbas – and Bar Abba in Hebrew means ‘Son of the Father’! Coincidence? #atheism
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By the Bible, Pilate offered the Jews the release of one prisoner & the cursed race chose Barabbas rather than gentle Jesus… #atheism
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Another Jesus during the reign of Artaxerxes I of Persia 465-424 BC. His brother John, the High Priest slain him in the holy temple #atheism
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There’s hardly a word of Jesus that is not to be found in a parallel saying of the rabbis. #atheism
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Practically all the events of Jesus’ supposed life appear in the lives of mythical figures of far more ancient origin. Fishy, huh? #atheism
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… aaand, we now know that Nazareth did not exist before the second century. #atheism
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This ‘universal census’ makes no sense. Roman taxes were based on property ownership not on a head count. #atheism
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…therefore there was no reason for the journey. Even if Galilee had been imperial territory, history knows of no universal census #atheism
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At the time that Joseph & the pregnant Mary allegedly went off to Bethlehem for a Roman census, Galilee was not a Roman province… #atheism
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This ‘greatest story’ is full of numerous anachronisms, contradictions and absurdities. It just doesn’t add up. Let’s see… #atheism
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See, he problem for this notion is that absolutely nothing corroborates the sacred biography, nothing at all. Nada. #atheism
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But… with so many Jesuses could there not have been a ‘Jesus of Nazareth’? You might ask. #atheism
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Jesus ben Stada met his end in the town of Lydda (twenty five miles from Jerusalem) at the hands of a Roman crucifixion crew. #atheism
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Certainly. Jesus ben Stada – was a Judean agitator who gave the Romans a headache in the early years of the second century. #atheism
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But… was there a crucified Jesus? anyone? #atheism
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Jesus ben Thebuth.A priest who in the final capitulation of the city in 69AD, saved his butt by trading the treasures of the Temple #atheism
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When the Idumeans breached the walls of Jerusalem Jesus ben Gamala was put to death & his body thrown to the dogs and carrion birds #atheism
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Jesus ben Gamala. During 68/69 AD this Jesus was a leader of the ‘peace party’ in the civil war wrecking Judaea. #atheism
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When the city was about to fall to Vespasian’s legionaries Jesus ben Saphat fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee. #atheism
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Jesus ben Saphat. In the insurrection of 68AD that wrought havoc in Galilee, this Jesus had led the rebels in Tiberias. #atheism
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Jesus ben Ananias was considered as nothing more dangerous than a mad man. He died from a rock hurled by a Roman catapult. #atheism
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Jesus ben Ananias. Beginning in 62AD, this Jesus caused disquiet in Jerusalem with a non-stop doom-laden mantra of ‘Woe to the city’ #aheism
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This Jesus launched his end-time prophecy which upset the king. He met his own end-time by being hung on a tree – on the eve of a Passover.
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Jesus ben Pandira. A wonder-worker during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus 106-79 BC one of the most ruthless of the Maccabean kings #atheism
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Ecclesiasticus is part of Old Testament Apocrypha. Ben Sirach, writing in Greek about 180 BC, brought together Jewish ‘wisdom’. #atheism
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Jesus ben Sirach. This Jesus was reputedly the author of the Book of Sirach aka Ecclesiasticus or Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach #atheism
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Was there a #Jesus? Of course there was a Jesus! Certainly! The case is, there were many – but no “Jesus of Nazareth.” #atheist #atheism
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Ok, it’s #atheist Sunday School time. Who’s up for an avalanche of Jesuses? I actually love this topic. Ready? #atheism
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This one http://wp.me/pCWma-12J is for you, @bettered. Do some reading and find more answers yourself. #atheism #science
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The problem w/ you trying to prove your faith is that you look like an idiot when someone who knows more about science comes along. #atheism
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http://tl.gd/6aik3o wow! If you haven’t even heard about photosynthesis there’s not much that I can do for you.Seriously? @bettered #atheism
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Starting to think there’s no way to have everything you’ve ever dreamed of; it’s ok, though. In my dreams, I’ve had it all. ♥ Goodnight.
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Criticizing a belief is not persecution. You don’t have a problem when you deny all the gods you don’t believe in, do you. #atheism
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Our morality has evolved in spite of the so morally inadequate god described in the bible, not because of it. #atheism
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You can always close your eyes to the things you don’t want to see, but you can’t close your heart to the things you don’t want to feel. ♥

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